1 00:00:01,251 --> 00:00:03,920 [Music] Jeremy: One of our favorite questions that we get, 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,799 all the time, is what happens when you fall into a black hole? 3 00:00:08,008 --> 00:00:11,636 It's a fascinating question because it gets to all of the cool, 4 00:00:11,636 --> 00:00:14,472 weird, wild things about black holes. 5 00:00:14,472 --> 00:00:17,142 But it's technically a hard question to answer, 6 00:00:17,142 --> 00:00:18,893 especially with the visualizations. 7 00:00:19,019 --> 00:00:20,770 [Dramatic music] 8 00:00:24,899 --> 00:00:29,237 [Plunge: Behind the Scenes Creating a NASA Visualization] 9 00:00:29,362 --> 00:00:32,157 Narrator: The key to creating this visualization is scientist 10 00:00:32,157 --> 00:00:35,243 Jeremy Schnittman at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center. 11 00:00:36,369 --> 00:00:41,708 Jeremy: All of the ways that we model black holes with, with math and equations 12 00:00:41,708 --> 00:00:46,838 and computers, it all kind of falls apart at the edge, at the event horizon, 13 00:00:46,838 --> 00:00:50,175 because everything either goes to zero or infinity, 14 00:00:50,467 --> 00:00:53,470 and it makes it really hard to solve the equations. 15 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,639 So, this year we wanted to try to really 16 00:00:56,639 --> 00:01:01,644 to solve that problem, to get around all of the mathematical challenges 17 00:01:01,644 --> 00:01:05,148 at the event horizon and take those cameras 18 00:01:05,148 --> 00:01:07,484 and take those visualizations inside. 19 00:01:09,069 --> 00:01:11,571 It was all this new physics that we were exploring, 20 00:01:11,571 --> 00:01:13,656 and that's what we do as scientists. 21 00:01:13,656 --> 00:01:17,410 We, we love to go beyond and learn new things. 22 00:01:18,244 --> 00:01:22,707 Narrator: Jeremy's computer code applies the laws of physics, including relativity, 23 00:01:22,957 --> 00:01:26,127 to individual photons, and tracks their paths. 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,422 Jeremy: To get really just the photons that hit the camera, 25 00:01:29,422 --> 00:01:31,966 we have to go backwards in time. 26 00:01:31,966 --> 00:01:34,969 We start with the photons at the camera, 27 00:01:35,053 --> 00:01:38,807 and then we just follow them backwards to see where they came from. 28 00:01:39,140 --> 00:01:42,185 Fortunately, all of the equations 29 00:01:42,644 --> 00:01:47,190 of relativity, and physics in general, are time reversible, 30 00:01:47,190 --> 00:01:50,318 so they work basically the same forwards and backwards. 31 00:01:51,653 --> 00:01:54,864 But if there's one place in the universe where they 32 00:01:54,864 --> 00:01:57,242 don't behave so well, it’s at the event horizon. 33 00:01:57,242 --> 00:02:00,036 Because things don't go forwards and backwards across 34 00:02:00,036 --> 00:02:01,246 the event horizon, 35 00:02:01,246 --> 00:02:03,414 you know, so those kind of conceptual things, 36 00:02:03,957 --> 00:02:07,627 had to be really careful and think carefully about. 37 00:02:08,294 --> 00:02:13,424 All of this, of course, starts with just brainstorming in a storyboard, 38 00:02:13,424 --> 00:02:15,093 kind of hashing out 39 00:02:15,552 --> 00:02:18,763 what this might look like and what we hope it will look like. 40 00:02:19,013 --> 00:02:23,017 Then we have to try it again in kind of low resolution to get 41 00:02:23,017 --> 00:02:28,273 a couple more sophisticated snapshots to see how it will look. 42 00:02:28,857 --> 00:02:32,902 And it's an iterative process, that both involves the technical problems 43 00:02:32,902 --> 00:02:34,654 that I'm trying to work through figuring 44 00:02:34,654 --> 00:02:38,074 “Oh, well, this this isn't working because of a, of an equation.” 45 00:02:38,074 --> 00:02:41,077 And then feeding that back through the, 46 00:02:41,077 --> 00:02:44,539 the artists and the communicators that 47 00:02:44,539 --> 00:02:48,126 will help say, “well, this isn't working from a story point of view.” 48 00:02:49,127 --> 00:02:52,422 Narrator: Jeremy worked with astrophysics science writer Frank Reddy 49 00:02:52,422 --> 00:02:54,424 and video producer Scott Wiessinger 50 00:02:54,424 --> 00:02:57,093 to refine and construct the final videos. 51 00:02:58,678 --> 00:03:01,514 Jeremy: That's, I really, actually one of the parts of the problem I like the best: 52 00:03:01,514 --> 00:03:06,728 this, this teamwork between the technical and the narrative part of it. 53 00:03:07,353 --> 00:03:11,441 I got to really invoke my Kip Thorne, “Interstellar,” 54 00:03:12,108 --> 00:03:15,486 physicist-artist combination, right? 55 00:03:15,737 --> 00:03:18,656 The strict physical reality is that the camera's just going 56 00:03:18,656 --> 00:03:21,659 faster and faster as it gets closer to the black hole, 57 00:03:21,701 --> 00:03:25,663 which would make it realistic, but very difficult to watch. 58 00:03:25,663 --> 00:03:28,666 It would just go “zooooooom” and you're done. 59 00:03:28,958 --> 00:03:32,837 And of course, all the interesting stuff happens at the “zoooom” at the end. 60 00:03:33,171 --> 00:03:36,466 This is one of those places where you have to choose 61 00:03:36,758 --> 00:03:40,220 between the strict physical reality 62 00:03:40,553 --> 00:03:43,973 and the fact that you're really trying to tell a story. 63 00:03:44,307 --> 00:03:47,727 So, we had to take our artistic license and, 64 00:03:47,727 --> 00:03:51,981 and slow down the camera to help share that exciting experience. 65 00:03:54,567 --> 00:03:57,195 To get a feel for what it's going to look like, 66 00:03:57,195 --> 00:04:01,449 you know, we start off with a low-resolution image or maybe a few snapshots. 67 00:04:01,950 --> 00:04:04,702 And that sort of level of calculation 68 00:04:04,702 --> 00:04:08,456 is not too difficult to do on a laptop computer. 69 00:04:08,706 --> 00:04:09,332 Try it. 70 00:04:09,332 --> 00:04:10,041 It doesn't work. 71 00:04:10,041 --> 00:04:13,169 Try this. Doesn't work. Fix this. Ah, it works. 72 00:04:13,419 --> 00:04:16,631 Okay, now that we've got something that basically works, 73 00:04:17,298 --> 00:04:21,928 then we need to, to ramp up the resolution, make a whole lot more frames. 74 00:04:21,928 --> 00:04:26,140 And at that point, the laptop computer is really not powerful enough 75 00:04:26,140 --> 00:04:29,560 if we want to make this video in less than 100 years. 76 00:04:30,103 --> 00:04:33,648 So, at that point, we essentially take the same computer code 77 00:04:33,940 --> 00:04:37,151 and port it over to a supercomputer that can run 78 00:04:37,485 --> 00:04:41,155 many, many, many, many calculations all at the same time. 79 00:04:42,782 --> 00:04:44,826 Narrator: Jeremy loaded his code on 80 00:04:44,826 --> 00:04:47,203 the Discover supercomputer at Goddard. 81 00:04:47,495 --> 00:04:50,373 With 213,000 cores, 82 00:04:50,373 --> 00:04:54,085 Discover can process code at 8,280 trillion 83 00:04:54,085 --> 00:04:56,087 floating point operations every second. 84 00:04:57,171 --> 00:05:01,092 Data scientist Brian Powell helped load and run Jeremy's code on Discover. 85 00:05:01,634 --> 00:05:05,138 The initial run required about 10,000 CPU hours 86 00:05:05,513 --> 00:05:08,516 and generated 10 terabytes of raw data. 87 00:05:10,727 --> 00:05:14,063 Jeremy: And it's a different job for each frame, right? 88 00:05:14,063 --> 00:05:17,984 We're making one image, and that takes a few hours. 89 00:05:17,984 --> 00:05:21,321 But then we have tens and tens of thousands of these frames 90 00:05:21,321 --> 00:05:22,488 to make the movie. 91 00:05:22,488 --> 00:05:26,326 And then the last part is the Discover generates 92 00:05:26,326 --> 00:05:30,788 all of these numerical files, just lists of numbers, 93 00:05:31,289 --> 00:05:35,335 and I have to pull those back and convert those then into images. 94 00:05:35,335 --> 00:05:39,422 So, I have a couple of the last steps of converting 95 00:05:39,422 --> 00:05:43,009 just raw numbers into Jpeg files of images, 96 00:05:43,426 --> 00:05:46,846 also just running on my personal computer, because that's where 97 00:05:47,013 --> 00:05:50,808 you can kind of play around with them and preview them in an easier way. 98 00:05:51,642 --> 00:05:55,938 Putting all that together, we would find some weird properties, 99 00:05:55,980 --> 00:05:59,776 and you have to go back and figure out what the problem was, work it out 100 00:05:59,776 --> 00:06:04,113 again on the local computer and think you've got it fixed 101 00:06:04,113 --> 00:06:07,075 and put it all back through the Discover cluster again. 102 00:06:07,992 --> 00:06:12,330 Narrator: To show everything an observer might see on the trips into or around a black hole, 103 00:06:13,289 --> 00:06:16,709 Jeremy generated two map projections of the entire sky. 104 00:06:18,044 --> 00:06:21,047 One worked within standard 360 options, 105 00:06:21,172 --> 00:06:24,592 and the other, called a Mollweide projection, is often 106 00:06:24,592 --> 00:06:28,137 used to show the sphere of sky from astronomical observations. 107 00:06:28,721 --> 00:06:31,974 Jeremy: And then there was really a third one that that we worked 108 00:06:31,974 --> 00:06:33,976 on, which was the zoom in, right? 109 00:06:33,976 --> 00:06:36,604 So, we also have these zoom-in frames that are, 110 00:06:36,604 --> 00:06:38,773 I would say, more like a conventional camera, 111 00:06:38,773 --> 00:06:41,734 you know, a small field of view, right, right in front of you. 112 00:06:41,734 --> 00:06:45,029 And that was great for picking out some of the really cool 113 00:06:45,363 --> 00:06:49,033 relativity features, like the photon rings. 114 00:06:49,033 --> 00:06:54,372 As we both zoom in with the zoom-in frames and physically zoom in, bringing 115 00:06:54,956 --> 00:06:58,835 the observer closer and closer to the black hole, you get closer 116 00:06:58,835 --> 00:07:03,047 to this really cool feature of the black hole called the photon ring. 117 00:07:03,423 --> 00:07:08,469 And this is where light gets bent by the black hole 360 degrees around. 118 00:07:08,803 --> 00:07:11,597 And then beneath that, there's another set of photons 119 00:07:11,597 --> 00:07:15,726 that got wrapped around twice by the black hole. Three times. 120 00:07:15,768 --> 00:07:18,146 Like, it just goes forever and ever. 121 00:07:18,146 --> 00:07:21,274 Ring after ring after ring as we skirt 122 00:07:21,649 --> 00:07:26,028 that critical surface, getting closer and closer to the event horizon 123 00:07:26,028 --> 00:07:29,991 and the, and the singularity. We're seeing more and more of these light rings 124 00:07:30,199 --> 00:07:33,953 and also copies of the accretion disk and the galaxy 125 00:07:33,953 --> 00:07:38,166 get bent around and around the black hole, 126 00:07:38,166 --> 00:07:42,170 and we're going to see more and more copies of basically the entire sky, 127 00:07:42,503 --> 00:07:47,884 every, every loop around is another copy of the galaxies. 128 00:07:48,259 --> 00:07:49,886 And now we're almost hitting 129 00:07:49,886 --> 00:07:53,723 the singularity in the front and everything, just goes [crunch sound] right at the end. 130 00:07:55,141 --> 00:07:58,478 Narrator: Even for someone as familiar with black hole physics as Jeremy, 131 00:07:58,644 --> 00:08:02,565 watching the new visualization led to some unexpected discoveries. 132 00:08:03,191 --> 00:08:04,901 Jeremy: A completely genuine surprise is 133 00:08:04,901 --> 00:08:07,945 we see at some point, very close to the end, we see, 134 00:08:08,321 --> 00:08:10,615 like the sky almost shrinks. 135 00:08:10,615 --> 00:08:12,825 And we figured out that was because of some of these 136 00:08:12,825 --> 00:08:16,370 relativistic effects of the whole, sky getting pinched 137 00:08:16,370 --> 00:08:19,999 towards you as all of those photons hit you in the face. 138 00:08:20,917 --> 00:08:23,920 Narrator: Not all the surprises were welcome. 139 00:08:23,961 --> 00:08:27,340 After Jeremy produced the first full batch of zoom frames, 140 00:08:27,340 --> 00:08:29,717 a strange jitter was apparent. 141 00:08:30,176 --> 00:08:33,137 Jeremy: These jitter problems were the kind of things that, 142 00:08:33,137 --> 00:08:36,265 by definition, happen at the end because we only saw them 143 00:08:36,265 --> 00:08:40,978 in the really high resolution, smooth, videos 144 00:08:40,978 --> 00:08:44,357 where you're getting a lot of frames right next to each other. 145 00:08:45,149 --> 00:08:47,568 And what we think was happening 146 00:08:47,568 --> 00:08:53,533 was that you're basically stepping the camera forward in time by, you know, 147 00:08:53,533 --> 00:09:00,206 big steps and this part in between those steps wasn't perfectly smooth. 148 00:09:00,414 --> 00:09:04,293 So, it was like literally the difference between going up and down stairs 149 00:09:04,544 --> 00:09:06,087 and going on a slide. 150 00:09:06,087 --> 00:09:09,048 And we were taking these steps, which were kind of 151 00:09:09,048 --> 00:09:11,634 almost like jerking the camera back and forth. 152 00:09:11,634 --> 00:09:17,014 So, we had to come up with a way of making those steps into a nice, smooth ride. 153 00:09:17,682 --> 00:09:21,936 And then at the very end, where it's almost like the inescapable jitters 154 00:09:21,936 --> 00:09:25,731 at the singularity, at the center of the black hole. 155 00:09:26,065 --> 00:09:29,485 This is where even our best equations have trouble. 156 00:09:29,485 --> 00:09:33,614 There are matrices and inversions and integrals 157 00:09:33,614 --> 00:09:37,785 that just struggle with the infinities 158 00:09:37,785 --> 00:09:41,581 that happen at the center of a black hole, and there's almost no way around it. 159 00:09:46,002 --> 00:09:48,170 Narrator: With Black Hole Week 2024 looming, 160 00:09:48,170 --> 00:09:51,716 Jeremy and Brian Powell rushed to solve the issue of the jitter 161 00:09:51,966 --> 00:09:55,052 and generate new, smoother frames for the final videos. 162 00:09:55,886 --> 00:09:57,805 Jeremy: And we, we've done this before. 163 00:09:57,805 --> 00:10:00,725 We've done this three or four times before for Black Hole Week. 164 00:10:00,725 --> 00:10:01,851 We know the deadline, 165 00:10:01,851 --> 00:10:03,811 we know when we have to get everything done, 166 00:10:03,811 --> 00:10:07,356 we started over six months in advance because we knew 167 00:10:07,356 --> 00:10:10,359 we had to get all of this stuff done in time. 168 00:10:10,568 --> 00:10:13,571 And yet there's always that rush at the end. 169 00:10:13,738 --> 00:10:16,866 And it's stressful, but it's also fun, right? 170 00:10:17,199 --> 00:10:20,119 Because it's, you know, it's like, 171 00:10:20,119 --> 00:10:23,122 it's like real life! Physics! 172 00:10:23,456 --> 00:10:27,918 In my particular case, it was even more, ah, “exciting” 173 00:10:28,169 --> 00:10:32,757 because I was traveling out of town for a family wedding that weekend. 174 00:10:33,090 --> 00:10:38,137 So, I was like, in this cabin in a location wedding in the middle of nowhere, 175 00:10:38,137 --> 00:10:42,767 trying to get internet, working with Brian, on the Discover 176 00:10:42,767 --> 00:10:47,563 cluster, working with Frank and Scott, trying to get the frames all set. 177 00:10:49,023 --> 00:10:50,441 So, it was a lot, 178 00:10:50,441 --> 00:10:54,945 but it was it was so worth it because the final product was just tremendous, I think. 179 00:10:57,198 --> 00:10:59,241 Narrator: Despite all the math, science, 180 00:10:59,241 --> 00:11:02,244 and computer work underpinning this project, 181 00:11:02,286 --> 00:11:05,414 the end result has a strong emotional resonance. 182 00:11:05,831 --> 00:11:08,542 Jeremy: I have to admit I do get a little bit emotional 183 00:11:08,542 --> 00:11:13,047 when we watch the final project, especially once we add the soundtrack in. 184 00:11:14,465 --> 00:11:17,551 The, the sound it just, you know, there is a scene 185 00:11:17,551 --> 00:11:20,554 where we're going into the black hole and we’re zooming in, 186 00:11:20,721 --> 00:11:25,226 and the music is getting like, [beat sound] and it's just, it's it's really exciting. 187 00:11:25,226 --> 00:11:27,144 Even though I know it's going to happen. 188 00:11:27,603 --> 00:11:30,606 [Dramatic music] 189 00:11:43,244 --> 00:11:46,247 [Music fades] 190 00:11:46,247 --> 00:11:47,790 Jeremy: We the scientists, right? 191 00:11:47,790 --> 00:11:49,125 We're people, too. 192 00:11:49,125 --> 00:11:50,710 We are our audience. 193 00:11:51,252 --> 00:11:55,297 We love to have our imagination engaged. 194 00:11:55,297 --> 00:11:57,341 We love to see pretty pictures. 195 00:11:57,341 --> 00:12:00,010 We love to see the beauty of nature. 196 00:12:00,010 --> 00:12:03,097 I mean, that's why most of us do what we do. 197 00:12:03,097 --> 00:12:05,266 Because of the excitement. 198 00:12:05,266 --> 00:12:07,560 Because of the wonder. 199 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:11,313 I think a lot of times when I make the visualizations 200 00:12:11,313 --> 00:12:16,527 and we have the dramatic music and the zoom ins and the zoom outs, 201 00:12:16,527 --> 00:12:21,157 like that's where I get to really express how I feel about black holes. 202 00:12:23,284 --> 00:12:26,370 [Music fades out] 203 00:12:26,829 --> 00:12:29,915 [NASA]