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Jacob Pinter: This one is from a few years ago.

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This one's a little bit older,
but also from Jeremy Schnittman.

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Ron Gamble: Yeah, I know, I know.

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I know Jeremy's work when I see it.

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So this is actually one that I use in my,
my talks a lot.

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Jacob: Yeah?

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Ron: But it gives you a visualization
of both kind of edge-on

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and top-down of what the accretion disk
looks like around a black hole.

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Right.

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So we're looking at something that kind of
looks like a spacetime hurricane, if you will.

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Jacob: Wow. Ron: To give you
kind of like a natural example.

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Jacob: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Ron: But also you can kind of see where the lensing
 is kind of up top.

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This piece ... again, you're seeing behind the black hole.

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So the disk that is ... the part of the disk
that's behind the black hole

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gets lensed in front.

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And so that's how you see that kind
of crest up top for the black hole

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and you kind of see it kind of spin
back around and it goes back up top.

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And that's exactly what
we see here. Thanks, Jeremy.

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for putting this together because I use it a lot.

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But yeah, that is, that's what we're seeing.

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And it's a very good visualization,
both top-down

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again and edge-on to see what ... you can see

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the spherical surface of a black hole.

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Jacob:Yeah,
Ron: It’s not a funnel

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Jacob:Yeah,

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Ron: As we can see, right?
[Jacob laughs]

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Jacob: I always appreciate hearing a scientist
say ‘that movie did a good job’

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because I know that it's not always the case.

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Ron: Right.

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