1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,000 [Music throughout] Tale of Two Telescopes: 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:08,000 Hubble Space Telescope and WFIRST. Wide Field Astrophysics. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,000 Jason Rhodes: My name is Jason Rhodes, I’m the JPL 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,000 WFIRST project scientist, so that means I work with 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,000 scientists and engineers on the JPL side 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,000 to make sure that WFIRST is going to be ready for launch in the mid 2020s. 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Karoline Gilbert: My name is Karoline Gilbert, I am an 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,000 astronomer at Space Telescope Science Institute where I am the WFIRST mission 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,000 scientist. Jason: So my career with the Hubble Space Telescope 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,000 started when I showed up at graduate school in 1994. 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,000 What happened was, I was assigned a supervisor, 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,000 in graduate school, and my supervisor, his name was Ed Growth. 13 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,000 And he had been one of the people that built one of the original 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,000 cameras for the Hubble Space Telescope. Karoline: I first started using data 15 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,000 and results from Hubble about 15 years ago. And that was to try to 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,000 reconstruct the collision of a small galaxy with a neighboring galaxy, Andomeda, 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,000 which is nearly a twin of our own large Milky Way galaxy. I started 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,000 working on WFIRST nearly 4 years ago, and my primary goal 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,000 for WFIRST is to maximize the breakthrough science that it will do across 20 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,000 all of astrophysics, from the solar system to the edge of the 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,000 observable universe, just as Hubble has. Jason: Hubble Space Telescope was 22 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,000 really transformative for the astrophysics community, and the way I like 23 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,000 to think of it is, one of the first things that everyone learns 24 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,000 about astronomy is the song “Twinkle Twinkle Little Star.” We all learn 25 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,000 that as a kid. And the irony of that 26 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,000 is that it’s not actually the stars twinkling, it’s the starlight 27 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,000 coming through our atmosphere that’s causing that twinkling, and that twinkling 28 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,000 of the starlight makes it harder measure things like the brightness of 29 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,000 stars, or the shape of galaxies. And so what we want 30 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,000 to do is we want to get outside of our atmosphere so we don’t have to 31 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,000 deal with that twinkling. So Hubble was really the first 32 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,000 telescope that rivaled ground-based 33 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,000 telescopes in size and capability that was above the atmosphere, 34 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,000 and got rid of that atmospheric twinkle. Karoline: It turns out that 35 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,000 we found that stars extend many, many times 36 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,000 farther out than the centers of galaxies where Hubble 37 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,000 is really good at looking. So in each image, WFIRST 38 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,000 will cover an area of sky 100 times larger than Hubble does 39 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,000 and that will allow us to survey the outskirts of galaxies, to 40 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,000 measure their true extent, to discover streams of stars that 41 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,000 indicate where small galaxies fell in and were torn about by the gravity of 42 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,000 bigger galaxies. And we’ll make these measurements for hundreds of galaxies 43 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,000 in the nearby universe. Jason: So, one thing I learned 44 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,000 from working on Hubble that will translate into WFIRST, 45 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,000 is as scientists, we have to be patient. 46 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,000 It can sometimes take a really long time to 47 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,000 process and understand our data, the images that we take, 48 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,000 and in the same way, it can take a long time to plan 49 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,000 and build and then finally fly a space telescope. 50 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,000 I was lucky enough to start my career on Hubble 51 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,000 having the data already, having the images already, but it took 52 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,000 me many years to process and understand what was in those images. 53 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,000 And I’ve been working on WFIRST under one name or another for 18 54 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,000 years, and so that patience I learned working on Hubble has really 55 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,000 paid off in being patient and persevering 56 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,000 with getting WFIRST going. Karoline: One thing I’ve learned from 57 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,000 working on Hubble is that the universe will surprise us, and 58 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,000 astronomers will be more creative than we can anticipate. 59 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,000 Astronomers have continued to think of exciting and unique questions to answer 60 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:00,000 with Hubble for 30 years, and now many astronomers 61 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,000 are answering entirely new questions using existing data in 62 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,000 Hubble’s archives. Since WFIRST will be like having 63 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,000 one hundred Hubbles all pointing together, and this massive amount of data 64 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,000 will be available right away, from day one scientists from 65 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,000 around the world will use data from WFIRST’s archive to 66 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:24,000 explore questions that we have not yet imagined. 67 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,000 [Explore] 68 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,000 [NASA] 69 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,000 70 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,107