AMS Media Briefing The 2024 Total Solar Eclipse and NASA

AMS Media Briefing The 2024 Total Solar Eclipse and NASA

Narration: Dr. Kelly Korreck, Dr. Alex Lockwood, Dr. Jamie Favors

Transcript:

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Hi, my name is Dr. Kelly Korreck

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and I am the Program Manager

for the Solar Eclipse at NASA.

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I am so excited to be here

today with you all to talk

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about the April 8th, 2024

total solar eclipse.

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So on the screen, you can see

the image of the path of totality.

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So this eclipse is a solar eclipse

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where the Sun is momentarily

blocked by the Moon,

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and along this path

is where you will actually see that.

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And not just see that action,

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but then once the Moon is

completely covering the Sun

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you will see the Sun's outer

corona, or atmosphere,

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and that's where our origins of space

weather come from.

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So this is a really interesting

and beautiful thing to behold.

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So in this path, there are 31.5

million people who live who live in that

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path and around 200 million who live

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within a few hours drive of that path.

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And the entire continental United States,

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as well as parts of Alaska and Hawaii,

will be seeing a partial eclipse.

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So that's about 300 - over 300 million

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people will experience

a part of this celestial event.

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So it's a really neat opportunity

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to participate in NASA science

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and be able to view this safely,

because we do want to make sure to view

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this safely and also talk a little bit

more about the safety messaging.

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Next slide.

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And this is an

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image of what you might see

in the path of totality.

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And so, again,

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the Moon is completely blocking the Sun

and you're seeing that outer atmosphere.

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You might see some striations

or some rays that go out from the Sun.

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That's the solar wind

that is streaming away from the Sun’s -

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things that we study to better understand

our star as well as then

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that space weather that affects

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our can affect our daily lives

that Jamie will talk more about.

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So with that, we'll move to Alex and see.

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Good morning.

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I'm Dr. Alex Lockwood.

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I am the Eclipse Engagement

Lead on behalf of NASA.

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And yes,

we have some really important messages

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that we need to convey to the public

for this event.

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As Kelly mentioned,

a huge population of the U.S.

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will actually just be able

to walk outside and witness this.

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But in order to really appreciate

the full event,

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we have provided over 2 million solar

viewing glasses

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across the country

to members of the public.

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So these solar viewing

glasses are ISO certified.

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And the number here is on the screen

for what that certification

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is to make it safe to look

directly at the Sun with these viewers.

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Now, during the totality itself,

which can last up to 4 minutes

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in different parts of the U.S.,

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you don't need the glasses.

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You can actually look at the Sun

for the only time during the daytime,

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and you will see that beautiful corona

image that Kelly just shared.

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However, before and after,

as the Moon is eclipsing the Sun

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in order to witness this event

and to see these spectacular Baily's

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Beads that happen

just as you see the craters of the Moon,

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right, as the Moon is fully

covering the Sun,

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in order to appreciate all of that

phenomenon you need these glasses.

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So we do want to warn that there have been

some fakes that are out in the market

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that we witnessed

previously and are currently witnessing

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on, you know, major online sellers.

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So one of the best ways we've been asked

is how do you test these glasses?

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Well, if you hold up your cell phone

camera on the back, there's a flashlight.

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And if you use these

to look at the cell phone camera,

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you should only see a tiny point of light

and absolutely nothing else.

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So that's a pretty good way to test these.

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You want to be very careful

and only look at the Sun

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with ISO certified safety glasses.

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If you do not have these viewing glasses,

there's still plenty of ways

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to witness the partial

or total solar eclipse.

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And that is

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using indirect viewing methods

such as a pinhole projector.

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So there's plenty of resources on our

website science dot nasa dot gov

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slash eclipses

on how to make your own pinhole

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projector at home.

Very easy activity that you can create -

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it's an activity for kids as well.

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But your most basic instrument

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that you probably have ever cooked pasta

at home is a colander.

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You can take a colander from your kitchen,

walk outside,

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and the projection

through the colander holes onto the ground

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or whatever

surface you have, will be that of the Sun.

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And you'll be able to witness a partial

or total solar eclipse this way.

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So very easy at home activities

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to view the eclipse safely.

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Additionally,

we have lots of other at home activities

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that you can do for learners of all ages

online.

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Again, this QR code will point

you straight to our website

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with all of those activities,

including an activity

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with UV beads,

which are very easy to purchase online,

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you know, and inexpensive and respond

to the UV light from from the Sun.

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So that's a fun activity for kids.

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We also have activities where you can draw

what you think you'll see

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when that beautiful corona happens

during totality and several others.

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So we encourage you to go online.

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There's lots of very easy

at home activities for folks to do

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before,

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during and after the eclipse

and for the eclipse itself.

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NASA has lots of events going on

across the path of totality, which -

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so we have events all the way from

Texas, all the way up to Maine.

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We are sending lots of NASA personnel

to give talks, to serve, to give out

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safety messaging and to give out

some of these glasses and other resources

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to make sure everyone has a safe but

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also enjoyable experience.

Because this is really a,

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this is really an opportunity

to to be with your community

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and to witness

an incredible phenomenon together.

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This is the last one in the U.S.

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for over 20 years, and it is happening in

just a few short months away.

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So and finally, additionally, in addition

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to several major in-person events

along the path of totality,

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NASA will also be doing a live broadcast

from 1 to 4 p.m. Eastern

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on the day of the eclipse,

where we will be showing views from

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Mexico, the U.S.

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of the telescope views of the

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the totality as it passes over the U.S.

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and talking about the science

that NASA does around the eclipses,

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how to view an eclipse safely,

and how to continue to connect

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with NASA and NASA science

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well after this event has passed.

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So to talk more about NASA science

and space weather in particular, Jamie.

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Thank you, Alex.

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So good morning, everyone.

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My name is Jamie Favors.

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I'm the director of NASA's Space Weather

Program in the Heliophysics division

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and rolling that beautiful solar footage

in the background as we chat.

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A little bit on the space weather

side of the eclipse,

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I think that's kind

of the really exciting part of,

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you know, this eclipse as any eclipse

is pretty exciting on its own.

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The fact we're actually going

to be very close

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to solar maximum for this solar eclipse

adds a pretty interesting dynamic here.

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So we partner with NOAA

with the Space Weather Prediction Center,

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very similar to terrestrial weather.

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Space Weather Prediction Center

is the official source of the forecast

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when it comes to space

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weather alerts and warnings there.

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Most recent forecast for solar

maximum is to occur actually

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this year, 2024,

sometime between now, January and October.

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right at the peak of solar

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maximum for this cycle

that this eclipse will be happening.

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talking about,

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you know, we're always observing the Sun,

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glasses, it's

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not so dissimilar to the way

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we think about some of our really

sophisticated instruments in space

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and here on Earth about using filters

to be able to observe the Sun

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in different ways

to protect those sensitive instruments

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but be able to really peer in

and understand the way the Sun works

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to better answer those questions

about space weather.

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solar flares or CME’s

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but we may actually see the fingerprints

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actually in that corona, actually see very

dynamic structures in that outer -

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the corona features out there

for the atmosphere of the Sun

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as it really first starts

to move into interplanetary space.

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I'm really excited about to kind of wait.

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So we start leading up closer and closer

to that day to kind of see is the Sun

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going to give us something exciting

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but just for a curiosity sake to be able

to see those features out there.

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So I think that kind of tells the story

in the space weather side.

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I think it's personally here too.

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I'm a meteorologist

and hemispheric scientist by background,

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have a lot of friends

who went into the broadcast

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meteorology field

and I'm really excited for that day

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where we also talk about space weather

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as we talk about weather

on the local forecast

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at night and talking about those impacts

as we think about them here on Earth.

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There's a lot of ways

where the Sun actually touches

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and influences our lives in ways

we don't often

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think about, whether it's, you know,

the signals we have from GPS signals

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coming through the atmosphere,

the way we use radio propagation, impacts

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on satellites and spacecraft in space

just everyday life, the way, you know,

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even animals migrate depend on things

that can be impacted by space weather.

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So it's I think we realize maybe less

than is actual true about how often

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the Sun and those features that are

you know 94 million miles

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away from us actually come in

and touch our lives every single day.

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All right, Thanks very much.

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We will now open it up for Q&A.

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So for people in the room,

if you can just head to the mic

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and please state your name

and your affiliation.

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And if you're directing your question

to a specific person.

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And then just a reminder

for everyone that we are recording

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and we'll post this online later.

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All right. Go ahead.

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Hi Todd Glickman, WCBS Radio,

New York City.

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Will NASA or NOAA be making

cloud cover forecasts within a few

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days of the event to help steer the public

to the right places along the path?

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So those forecasts do come out regularly.

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I mean, the sources will be out there.

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I don't know if we're doing

anything special to connect them

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to anything on the necessary,

but NOAA is responsible for it.

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NOAA is responsible for the weather.

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Yeah, but I suspect it'd be the

same products that are always available.

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But know,

hopefully they'll do a path specific

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public information

statement within a couple of days.

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That's a good idea.

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That's great. Yes.

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And thanks for the talk.

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I'm Ben Cathey from WVLT in Knoxville

and we're in the east side of the States s

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we’ll only be in a partial eclipse,

but there's a tiny, tiny, tiny sliver

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of northwest Tennessee

in the path of totality.

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What is the difference going to be

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in your time under totality

from kind of like

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the centroid of the path versus

the edge of totality?

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There is a difference.

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So the center of the path is

where you're going to get the maximum

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length on towards the edge is

when it's going to be more like seconds.

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So the center is going to be for four

and a half minutes,

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the sides are going to be

20 to 30 seconds.

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So if you can go a little further

in, it is into the centerline.

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That's where you're going

to get maximum totality.

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But even for a brief second,

the experience is well worth it.

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All right.

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While we wait and see if

there are any other questions in the room,

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one that I have is

I would love for someone to tell us

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a little bit more about some of the NASA

science experiments

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that are going on during the eclipse.

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Great question.

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We we are using the eclipse

in many different ways.

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First of all, to look at our

our Star the Sun.

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So we have one WB 57 airplane

with two experiments onboard

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that will look at the solar corona,

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as well as study that outflow,

as well as look

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for some of the dust that's around

our star. And you might think

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dust is boring but it's not. It's actually

the remnants of how the star was made.

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And so that's

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why it's interesting to understand

the process of how the planetary formation

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in the stellar formation,

so little information about dust as well.

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Then we will be using ground based assets.

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So things like radio, radio arrays

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to look at this, at the star our Sun

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and take those really active regions

that we see at the solar maximum,

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and as the moon perfectly covers

them and goes across the disk,

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they'll take different signals

to actually be able to see in height

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what is going on.

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A neat technique there.

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And then we will be using this eclipse

to test our atmosphere.

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So our atmosphere has this charged layer

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that we use, the bounced communication

signals to.

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And so we have folks, the HamSCI,

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who are using ham radios to do this test.

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We are also doing other tests

through actually

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a series of three rockets

launched from Wallops

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and there will be one before, during

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and after the eclipse to study again

that ionosphere and that collapse,

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when that happens, when

we have that sudden day night switch.

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And so those are some of them.

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There's also citizen science projects.

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Does anyone want to take citizen

science? I can keep going.

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These are very, very exciting.

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So we also have citizen science projects

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from the Globe Observer app

where folks can download

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an app and help

take observations of the temperature

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and what they're seeing during an eclipse

and what they're experiencing.

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There's Eclipse Soundscapes,

which is listening to the eclipse.

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And this is the sounds that happen

because animals do think it's nighttime.

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So there are different,

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different things that happen and

that you hear during the day and then they

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during the day to night transition

during the eclipse and then back to day.

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So that's being recorded and sonified

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and I think that that's anybody,

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any of the other ones

that I'm forgetting right now?

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Yeah HamSCI and yeah the eclipse. Yep.

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So Soundscape

and and Globe Observer. There we go.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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Oh, all right.

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I had a few more questions if I can just,

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I can just run them off.

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For the glasses from the last eclipse,

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I've been told there's, like,

an expiration.

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What's the danger

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in using an older pair of eclipse

glasses from a few years ago?

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And how widespread of an issue

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are eye problems after?

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Do you guys have any kind of data on that?

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So in terms of the

the glasses certification,

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what I would do with your glasses

is test them.

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Even if you have a brand new pair.

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I would test them internally as

we were talking about with the cell phone,

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that you should only see a pinpoint

from that flashlight after you use them.

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So if they are not damaged

and you have tested them

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indoors without looking at the Sun,

that's telling.

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That was telling us that they

should be relatively safe to view the Sun.

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In terms of the widespread damage, we've -

we did a lot of - or widespread damage.

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The fact that there wasn't any

was because we get the safety message out

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and folks are very good

about actually understanding

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that they need either a pair of glasses

or an indirect viewing method.

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There's actually a lot of fun ways -

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you can even use your hair

to do these pinhole projections.

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You can use your fingers too.

You put your back to the Sun

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and put your fingers out to the side

and pinhole project.

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So they -

I think there's a lot of interesting ways.

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So we have not seen,

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you know, many cases of solar retinopathy

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and we'd have to - I'd have to go to the,

you know, opticians to see how many cases.

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But there is not widespread reports.

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But I think being partners

with the broadcast community and

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sharing these messages is part of why

we haven't seen some of those issues, too.

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Right.

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It's all of us sharing that good message

out there about the cool parts

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of the eclipse, but also staying safe. So.

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All right. Thanks.

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You know, last eclipse,

I did a piece with the blind community

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about how they experience the eclipse

because it's such a collective

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time for people,

and they're kind of left out.

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I know NASA had an app which was,

you know, vibration based.

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Are there any other new tools

for underserved communities at this time?

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Yeah, that's a great question.

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So we do have some teams -

who are, some of our student

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teams have created

as they take measurements

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they've created a tactile version

of recording those measurements.

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And so we're working in Indiana.

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There's a student team

there who's working with the Indiana

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Association for the Blind or I'm sorry,

I'm getting the acronym messed up.

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But but we're making connections there

with actual science experiments.

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We also have tactile books that talk

about eclipses and the path of the eclipse

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that we're passing out at all of our NASA

locations.

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And the Eclipse Soundscapes

project is really one of those

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unique opportunities

where, you know, we are encouraging folks

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to close their eyes

for at least a few seconds, if not longer,

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and witness how other communities

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will experience

this event, which, you know,

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is actually pretty incredible.

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You can, you feel the temperature change,

you hear the sounds and,

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you know, the atmosphere

and the animals respond.

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So we have put as much thought,

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you know, we've put a lot of thought into

how do we share this

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with others,

because it's a communal time

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and that is for everyone.

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You know, the sun touches everything

and affects everyone's lives.

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And that's what we are celebrating here,

not just folks with,

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you know, sight. So.

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Yeah, just one more. Sorry.

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I'm like the annoying guy on the sports

radio show.

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What do you think as far as hotels

being booked up already or do

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you think it'll be closer to the event

when we get a better idea on the forecast?

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From our current experience,

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there are definitely locales

where hotels are already sold out

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and then there are some locales

where you could find a hotel room or two.

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So I would advise making your plans a

little bit earlier than you might usually,

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although we all know that eclipse chasers

will probably make multiple

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so that they can change

based on the weather.

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All right.

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I know we've talked a little bit

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about the weather

and how that can affect the experience,

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but I guess I would like to hear

a little bit more about other factors

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that people might want to consider

as they're making plans.

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For example,

the the NASA events that are going on.

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You know, what should people

be taking into consideration?

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Yeah, and,

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you know, and in addition to the hotels,

there are several major cities

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along the path

who have been planning for years to

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to celebrate this incredible event

and to accommodate the large crowds.

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Those include Rochester, Niagara Falls,

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Buffalo, all in New York,

Erie, Pennsylvania.

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Cleveland, Ohio.

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Toledo, Ohio.

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Indianapolis, Indiana.

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And Dallas, Texas.

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Definitely Dallas and Waco

and Austin, all.

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You know this.

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That's just a few of the major cities

that are along this path.

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So in - so different cities are taking

different preparation measures.

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For example, the city of Austin

is very much encouraging

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folks to stay where they are

and not gather centrally.

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So for locals just to kind of,

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you know, shelter in place, as it were,

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understanding that there will be

a large influx of other people.

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But in terms of emergency management,

you know, crowds,

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traffic management, all of these cities

are taking this very seriously.

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You can find lots of information

both on individual city websites,

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but also at science dot nasa dot gov

slash eclipses slash events.

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So NASA has partnered

with several of these cities

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to not only bring up NASA's presence,

but ensure that we are making

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you know, we are insuring people's safety,

both safety with glasses,

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but also physical safety,

you know, and mental

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well-being to make sure

that there are facilities for everyone.

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So currently we have

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12 cities that NASA is partnering

with along the path of totality.

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And but we will be sending

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speakers to dozens more locations

both on and off the path of totality,

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because as was mentioned everywhere

in the contiguous U.S.

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will experience a partial eclipse,

which is still a very rare

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and cool phenomenon.

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And I would also say

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you can choose your own adventure here.

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So if you really love parks

in the outdoors,

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you can see the eclipse at a national park

or a local park.

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If you are more of a city dweller,

just make sure that you can see it over

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the building that you

that you've chosen to put yourself near.

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But that might be exciting.

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Or on a football field, you know,

a stadium or something like that.

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That might be a good choice.

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So part of it

is designing the whole experience

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that you want to have,

you know, choosing the city or state, or

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you know, park along the path

that you'd like to actually celebrate in.

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Great.

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And talking about

how people can participate in the eclipse.

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I know we talked about

some of the citizen science projects

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and, you know, I think that can seem

a little bit intimidating to people.

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But can you talk about

some of the projects

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that people can really just like go out

in their backyard, pick up their phone

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and do?

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I'll talk about it.

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So, for instance,

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the Globe Observer app, again,

is something that you can simply download.

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And we are encouraging folks

to maybe even prep ahead of time

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because you can also record cloud cover

or do other activities with this.

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And so it's an app that's downloadable.

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Folks can register and then you simply

go outside in your backyard

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and make observations and type it , or

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you know, press buttons in your phone,

record things with your phone.

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So this is a relatively easy

way to participate in science

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and really get a feel for what we

do in terms of data collection.

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Great.

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All right, Jamie, I know

you talked a little bit about how we can

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see the corona and some of those sources

of space weather during the eclipse.

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And can you talk a little bit more

about the other ways that we look at space

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weather, how we're gathering that data

and what our scientists do with it?

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Sure.

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So there's you know, as a kid, I kind of

always thought of our Star the Sun.

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It's a pretty static feature,

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just like one color,

even though I wasn't looking at it.

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I promise.

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And I realize, you know,

especially getting later in life in turn,

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you're kind of understanding,

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especially with more sophisticated,

you know, instrumentation

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that we can put in space

and here on the Earth, like we can measure

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in lots of different wavelengths,

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looking at different temperature

profiles, energy profiles in the star,

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and they really kind of dive

in a little bit deeper,

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not just seeing one actual surface

of the star, but actually dive in

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and really understand multiple interaction

that are going on there.

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So if you saw some of that video earlier

and saw the different colors

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that we're showing,

that's actually what we're looking at.

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We're actually using different, different

energy levels to look in different ways

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at the Sun. On the NASA side,

we get to answer

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really interesting science questions

about that.

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That's really

what drives so much of the work

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we do, is that understanding

of what is truly going on in our star,

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because there's still so much of

it that we don't understand.

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The end goal for us really getting to the

where we understand it

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well enough to be able to predict it

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and hopefully be able to predict it

out in time quite a while.

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And that's really where the partnership

with organizations like NOAA,

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where they're really responsible for that

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forecasting,

becomes pretty critical for us.

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So that's an endpoint and then transition

that science to understanding

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and direct real world applications

for them to take that next step.

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On the forecasting side, there's

so many similarities here with terrestrial

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weather, weather here on the Earth

about maybe where we were 30, 40 years ago

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with being able to, you know,

forecast out, you know, a hurricane event.

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You know,

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now we over five, seven days out and

sometimes a very, very reliable forecast.

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That's not where we were,

you know, 30 or 40 years ago.

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But that's similar,

you know, where we are today for space.

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But that's kind of where we were

quite a few decades ago.

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And it's - imagine for some of the most

high energy events on the sun,

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that's all reaching us here

in about 8 minutes.

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You know, imagine if your hurricane

forecast gave you 8 minutes of warning on

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what was going on.

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I mean, that's

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that's kind of what we're talking about,

right, not only here for Earth,

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but also as we send astronauts

deeper into space.

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We started with this one with our

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aim is to actually have crew on board

going back to the Moon.

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And as we think about sending astronauts

to Mars, this becomes ever increasing -

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bigger challenges, not only being able

to make these measurements, analyze

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this data,

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to be able to give that forecast

so that people

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can make decisions

with the scientific mission

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all the way into just what we do here

in terrestrial weather, knowing, oh, hey,

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do I want to take an umbrella with me

today?

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It's almost the same kind of thoughts

476

00:25:50,148 --> 00:25:51,883

when we get to

that understanding on space weather.

477

00:25:54,152 --> 00:25:55,220

Thank you.

478

00:25:55,220 --> 00:25:58,223

Any other questions in the room?

479

00:25:59,257 --> 00:25:59,591

All right.

480

00:25:59,591 --> 00:26:00,659

I'll do my last one.

481

00:26:00,659 --> 00:26:03,762

I know we've talked about

how people can view in person,

482

00:26:04,296 --> 00:26:07,699

but if you're not close to

the path of totality or have bad weather,

483

00:26:08,266 --> 00:26:11,403

does someone want to talk a little bit

about the NASA live broadcasts?

484

00:26:14,706 --> 00:26:15,340

Absolutely.

485

00:26:15,340 --> 00:26:21,313

So we're very excited to be able to live

stream views from over a dozen places

486

00:26:21,313 --> 00:26:24,316

along the path of totality,

starting in Mazatlan, Texas -

487

00:26:25,150 --> 00:26:29,321

Mazatlan, Mexico

excuse me, going through Texas

488

00:26:29,654 --> 00:26:34,659

up through 15 different states

and coming out the other side of the U.S.

489

00:26:34,659 --> 00:26:36,561

out of Houlton, Maine.

490

00:26:36,561 --> 00:26:40,198

So we will be doing a live broadcast

starting about an hour before

491

00:26:40,832 --> 00:26:43,835

the first contact out in Mazatlan

492

00:26:44,102 --> 00:26:48,840

and continuing for 3 hours

so that we cover the entirety

493

00:26:49,007 --> 00:26:53,244

as the eclipse passes over the U.S.,

We will have live

494

00:26:53,678 --> 00:26:57,515

solar streams from different telescopes,

including solar filters, and also

495

00:27:00,285 --> 00:27:03,588

solar filters and different

types of alpha filters.

496

00:27:03,588 --> 00:27:07,392

And we'll be talking about

people have watch parties

497

00:27:07,392 --> 00:27:10,395

from different locations

both on and off that path of totality

498

00:27:11,329 --> 00:27:14,332

to really understand

what people are experiencing, because

499

00:27:14,332 --> 00:27:18,069

we want to bring this event to folks

who are not able to witness it in person,

500

00:27:18,903 --> 00:27:21,873

both the visuals but also the sentiments,

501

00:27:22,173 --> 00:27:26,244

you know, because even if you're not

experiencing it, the total solar eclipse,

502

00:27:26,244 --> 00:27:29,481

you can experience a partial solar eclipse

and you can take a moment

503

00:27:29,814 --> 00:27:33,251

to appreciate, you know,

what the Sun does for our everyday lives.

504

00:27:33,251 --> 00:27:36,554

And so we're really leaning

into that on our broadcast

505

00:27:36,554 --> 00:27:40,825

because many folks don't know that NASA

studies the Sun and they don't know

506

00:27:40,825 --> 00:27:45,397

all of the important effects of space

weather and the Sun on our everyday lives.

507

00:27:45,697 --> 00:27:50,268

So bringing that awareness out

and the importance of the work that NOAA

508

00:27:50,268 --> 00:27:54,706

and NASA, you know, do and work,

you know, the work we do together,

509

00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:56,941

as long as all of the science

that, you know,

510

00:27:56,941 --> 00:27:59,944

we can understand about our everyday

lives, both the Earth and,

511

00:27:59,978 --> 00:28:03,148

you know, setting Earth

and the Sun during this phenomenon. So

512

00:28:04,349 --> 00:28:09,087

So had over 50 million views

in 2017 of our live broadcast.

513

00:28:09,087 --> 00:28:12,557

And we expect similar,

if not greater numbers this time.

514

00:28:13,158 --> 00:28:17,195

This eclipse is passing over about

three times as many people in person.

515

00:28:17,896 --> 00:28:21,366

So the opportunities for in-person

engagement and for people to witness it

516

00:28:21,399 --> 00:28:25,937

themselves is incredible,

including a lot of communities

517

00:28:25,937 --> 00:28:29,507

that may not be as in tune with science,

518

00:28:29,507 --> 00:28:32,510

that we're as interested in

what's going on around them.

519

00:28:32,877 --> 00:28:37,582

But we hope that the live broadcast

both brings the opportunity to others

520

00:28:37,582 --> 00:28:40,785

and also is able

to kind of last as a moment

521

00:28:40,785 --> 00:28:44,756

in time for what NASA and the U.S.

522

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is experiencing and celebrating.